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Norm Macdonald and Johanne Savoie
It was Saturday, October 15th, 2005. Norm Macdonald was slated to headline at the Moore Theatre in Seattle, Washington with opening acts Orny Adams and Nick diPaolo. Just a couple of hours from Vancouver. Some people spend more time than that on their daily commute. For me, a Vancouverite and Norm fan from back in the days when I was doing stand-up in the Montreal club where he often appeared, you couldn't bait the hook any better than that.
Well, you could, but I'm guessing Norm prefers to be paid in American dollars over performing in Vancouver. Or, he doesn't want to risk the anecdotally threatened cavity search at the border...
(The previous paragraph was written before the announcement of Norm's upcoming show at the River Rock Casino across the river from Vancouver on January 21st, 2006.)
So, the day came and I went. I left Vancouver without a show ticket, because internet searches prevented me from getting the best available seat. * But, the weather was fine, the trip was peaceful, they love me (but not carnally) at the border, and after checking into the Moore Hotel next door to the Theatre, I had an afternoon to stroll around Seattle before the show. I got my last-minute ticket, and settled into a great aisle seat in an empty row.
The show started about 20 minutes late, as pages filled the front rows, either with people seated too far from the stage, or latecomers. This went on at least another 20 minutes into the show, but luckily, the club-seasoned opening act, Orny Adams, held my attention despite my being repeatedly asked to stand to let others in. There was no emcee for the show, which put Adams in the uncomfortable position of walking onto the bare stage, introduced only by a voice over the P.A. His self-introduction was unrehearsed, and he momentarily seemed awkward, which worked for him as he immediately got the "attention by sympathy" of the audience. His
malaise didn't last long, though, and within three lines, he launched into his rapid-fire and well-rehearsed set.
Orny Adams is an observational comic. His stuff often doesn't have a punchline, but the audience is expertly cued when to laugh by his clear delivery and impeccable timing. He's like a more aggressive Seinfeld. To my ears, he came off as derivative, but I'd hire him. He gets the laughs.
Adams introduced Nick diPaolo, a veteran comic whom I first saw in 1991 in Montreal. DiPaolo's style, which was a clean shadow of Ray Romano's back then, has morphed into the New York, "eating it", Colin Quinn thing you hear at clubs like the "Gotham". He relentlessly sought to find and prod the audience's sensibilities, saying gleefully whenever an "offensive" joke was appreciated "Come on, you're a white audience, you can afford to laugh at this..." (I'm paraphrasing; I didn't jot down the exact wording, but you get the sense...) Leaving no racial or sexist stone unturned, he was an excellent choice to open for Norm. It was important not to have the audience lulled into believing they were gonna get an evening of "SNL Norm". DiPaolo even made an evil crack about "Country and Western music", then grinned at an unseen watcher in the wings. It doesn't take Agent "99" to figure out that Norm, the die-hard country music lover was the target of that one. So, diPaolo truly held the beacon as an equal-opportunity offender. He did a good forty minutes at least, and only let his pitbull grip on the audience go when he felt the audience was ready to accept anything... and they had to...
...because Norm took the stage to riotous applause. He opened slowly and haltingly, seeming unsure of where to take the set after Nick diPaolo's thorough job. But, after establishing normalcy and likeability with some stuff about his beloved son as a newborn, he settled into the "sex and death" material which is the hallmark of Norm's, "I'm not working clean tonight" persona. (For those who've never seen it, Norm can work clean, only occasionally touching on taboo subjects to make a broader point. Those sets are riotously funny, but I haven't seen one in a long time. In his "dirtier" sets, Norm's exploration of darker subjects generally eschews meanness or a racist or bullying attitude, *** preferring to explore utterly shocking ideas until they reach an ironically funny conclusion. Most comics revel in the shock; few, like Norm, do that and then defuse it.) Recent workouts at the Mohegan Casino and an Irvine Comedy club had given Norm an assurance which was lacking in his December 2000 show at the "Rio" in Las Vegas. His pacing was on, and he was relaxed enough to settle into a sincere and conversational tone. In a bit describing his puzzlement over the finer points of human copulation, (yeah, yeah, fucking) he used grotesquely simplified mime with hilarious results. It was incongruously funny just to see the usually cool Norm growl during a half-baked bear hug gesture, or balance on one foot while lunging for an imaginary trollop. But there were more subtle and personal moments, too, such as when he described his own father's death by heart attack, and the fear and wonderment spawned by that event. I got the strong feeling watching the show and knowing what sharpness and exactitude Norm is capable of, that some of the bits, though funny, aren't yet to Norm's liking, and that he's thinking them through, trying to find an even deeper funny therein. The set was reasonably tight but not completely polished, which actually made it seem personal and warm, even. So, I'm guessing: Either Norm is recording these shows for an upcoming CD or he's getting back to standup in a bigger way, reclaiming his chops, and re-establishing himself as a premiere comic like Chris Rock did.
Hopefully.
Either way, may he reach his goal. I can't wait.
After the show, I headed next door to the Moore Hotel, ready to settle into that week's SNL, a "Best of David Spade" retrospective. When I got to my room, I realized that it was still early, and, flipping the channels, saw that the tube was awash with drear. Then I thought,"Hey, those guys from sociallyinept.com never emailed me back, ***** but maybe they popped in to the "NiteLite" anyway. So, I went downstairs and was scouting around the NiteLite when I realized I had no sure way of recognizing them. I had only seen one picture years before. I waffled, because the show had been good and I felt like a drink and some fun, but I didn't want to drink alone in a foreign bar. I looked at the seats, contemplated a game of pool, (No go, since I was wearing my strappy heels, and I didn't feel like attracting that kind of attention) and finally, ruefully, left for my room again. I got inside, sat on the bed, removed my heels, and in the quiet, I heard Gigo's voice from our phone conversation earlier that day. "Jo, you should try to meet Norm."
My reaction at the time: "Why? I have nothing to say to him. I'm sure he doesn't remember me from the Montreal days. It's not a casino here, I can't just walk up to him like you did."...all while Gigo, who loves doing that kind of thing, had tried to persuade me. And there, in the stillness of an underheated hotel room, I discovered a reason to meet Norm. I was bored. And boredom is my only allergy. Then I thought, "I should at least try to get a picture for Gigo's site. She'll think I'm a wuss." And for a Canadian, that's like, the worst thing you can be. I figured the show had ended a little over ten minutes before, and thought, "Everybody's gone by now. Norm's famous for ducking quickly out of performance situations." On the other hand, it couldn't hurt to look, and I convinced myself that walking was at least better exercise than thumb-twiddling. I slipped on some comfy shoes, grabbed my camera and went out.
Looking for a stage door at the Moore, I turned one corner, then two and there, in the alley behind the theatre was Norm, posing for pictures and chatting with a small group of fans while behind were Orny Adams, Nick diPaolo, and their chauffeur standing by the car and watching (enviously? impatiently? cynically?) Some had cameras, others, autographed paraphernalia. I was obviously last in line, so I stood back and watched as a blonde man (who turned out to be our Ross Munro) posed with Norm while the woman with him snapped away with a great-looking camera. (Notice how his pictures look so good.) They were deep in conversation, and Ross was giving Norm a DVD, for which Norm was thanking him warmly. I noticed the name "Brewster" on the cover, and thought it was a "Punky Brewster" DVD. I'm not familiar with "Punky Brewster", only the name, and idly thought, "Norm must be a 'Punky Brewster' fan, he seems really happy to be getting the DVD. I wonder if it's any good..."
...I only understood the real story when I read the article on normnews.com...
"Do you want me to take your picture?" I looked to my left. A blonde woman, seeing the camera in my hand offered to help, and I accepted. We had a short chat, during which she said she had "already gone" but would be glad to help. After a few sentences, I realized that she was far more interested in overhearing Norm's talk with Ross and with another slight but impeccably dressed young man who had cut in for a word, so I stopped trying to engage her in conversation and waited.
Norm focussed his attention warmly on each fan, which surprised me because I had expected him to disappear quickly. I overheard that the slight young man was an aspiring actor whose goal it was to play that guy you see in the opening scene of every movie and who you think will be the star, but who ends up dead before the first act is over. (I thought that was funny, 'cause with a goal like that, he may end up getting more work that Brad Pitt.) Norm summed up his conversation with them by sharing something about his girlfriend which I can't recall, as it was a reference to something that had been said before I arrived. He bid the guys goodbye, sending Ross Munro off with a "you have my email" and turned to me. He did a mild double take followed by a long, quizzical look. I thought that he was trying to remember where he knew me from, so I put out my hand and said, "Hi. I'm Johanne Savoie. We met in Montreal years ago." this was greeted with silence from Norm, so I added, "I'm on assignment for Gigohead."
But he replied, "I just saw you on the internet. I saw your website."
I was completely taken aback by that, and Norm seemed to be waiting for something from me. "Oh...I'm sorry."
"No, no, I like that thing with the Jean Chrétien. It was good."
"Oh, that was ten years ago..." My plan, which had been to get a quick photo and escape, was rapidly losing steam. I was momentarily flabbergasted at the power of the Gigohead, who gives out web addresses and directs the internet traffic of the stars.
"Well, it's cool to meet someone I just saw on the T.V...." That made me laugh, 'cause it's kind of a statement about why everyone was there in the first place... to meet someone we'd seen 'on the T.V.'
"...I like to keep up with those kinds of stories."
"Really?" I asked. It seemed to me that Norm, as an American, would have lost track...
"Yeah, I come from there, you know, from Québec."
"Oh, yeah, Québec City..."
"We didn't live in the city. We lived on an army base."
"Oh, yeah, there's that base, north from there, uh, Val... D'or?.." (I knew that wasn't it.)
"Valcartier."
"Yeah, Valcartier. So, you speak French?"
Norm quickly checked his buddies, who were still waiting outside the limo. "No, I never learned French."
"How come?"
"I wanted to, but my dad didn't want me to learn it. And we moved to Ottawa when I was fifteen. There was a lot of hate between the French and the English."
"Tell me about it. I lived in Ontario."
"Yeah, it was really bad. I remember they had this football game with all the best players form the French schools against all the best players from the English schools. But there weren't a lot of English schools. So, they were always way tougher... And they had the game every year on the Plains of Abraham."
"No way! (laughs) That's horrible!"
"Yeah, yeah..."
"They did that to kids?"
"Yeah. There was a lot of hate."
At this point, the lady taking the pictures chimed in. I heard that in Québec they have these laws that you can't put up signs in English..."
Norm moved back at this, and I didn't feel he wanted to field that kind of question, so I replied, "Well, the language laws came in after that (1978 for Bill 101, 1972 for Bill 22, which was predominantly a school language law - Norm's family would have left Quebec by '78) but that's why they exist, because of the hate Norm's talking about. And there was a huge class struggle mixed in with the race issue."

The football field on the Plains of Abraham, Quebec City - The origin of Norm's adolescent trauma.
Meanwhile, Norm had been visually checking with his friends, who pretty much wanted to leave. So, he suggested we get the photo done with.
So we posed for the photo, the flash went off, and as I reached for my camera from the blonde lady, Norm said, "Oh, that's no good, my eyes were closed." I looked at the shot, and our faces were washed out from the strength of my flash. Norm was saying, "We'll have to do another one." And I agreed, thanking him and showing him the camera's image.
Me: "You can't see our faces, the flash is too strong - or we're equally pale."
So, I took up Norm's kind offer, and I asked the lady photographer to try another one, admitting, "This camera's kind of a piece of crap."
So we posed again. And I thought, "Great! This is the one" I opened my mouth to thank Norm just as he said...
"I wasn't smiling in that one."
At this point, I started to lose it. I hate wasting peoples' time, and I was getting antsy at imposing on him. Also, I was beginning to wonder if he was toying with me because he was acting so overwhelmed at meeting someone he'd "seen on the T.V." and pointing it out to the remaining folks.
I looked at the camera, and the lighting in the second shot seemed much better. So, I handed the camera back to the lady, and shyly took my place under Norm's arm, joking, "O.K., try to look happy, Norm."
We stood, waiting, and the lady said, "Oh, it's not working..." So, I dropped my smile saying, "What's wrong?" just as the camera went off.
"Oh, now I'm the one not smiling..." This was getting real-ly embarrassing. I didn't want to ask Norm for another shot, but wondered if he was concerned about his image in any way.
Norm, eager to leave, solved that one by half-looking at the picture and saying, "You look pretty in that one."
"O.K., I'll take your word for that. It's hard to get a pretty picture of me, so..."
"N-no..."
"Oh, no, I'm not pulling the old 'I'm not pretty' thing, I mean my photos don't often turn out. The camera doesn't like me."
"Yeah, me either. Someone told me I looked better than on the T.V. They said I looked old on my show."
"Oh yeah?" I couldn't imagine Norm not looking good on T.V.; his pictures generally look great. "If you don't look good, it's gotta be the lighting."
"Yeah?"
"Yeah, bad lighting will make anyone look bad. So, if you find you don't look good, check the lighting. Were you ever mean to the crew?"
"Ah, I don't know."
"Maybe they hate you."
Norm looked a little taken aback by this, so I hope he didn't take it seriously. I was still in giggle mode.
Norm started to move away, saying his goodbyes, and again saying what an honour it was to meet someone he'd "seen on the T.V.", to which I muttered, chuckling, "Well, it's me who should be honoured, then, right?"
And Norm headed for the limo with his stuff from Ross Munro in hand.
I walked back towards my hotel with the blonde lady photog and her teenaged son, and we parted at the door. Later, in my room, it dawned on me that there was a question I've always wanted to ask Norm, about possible mutual friends, but of course, I had completely forgotten. In the middle of watching the David Spade SNL episode, I thought, "Oh, why didn't you ask him ...?" Duh. Missed it by THAT much.
However, my disappointment was short-lived, because I finally got to meet the tremendously smart, energetic, and endearing Gigohead the next day over a rushed breakfast. What a kick that was! Gigohead is just this immediately loveable lady; it felt like I was meeting a long-lost cousin.

Gigohead and Johanne.
Gigo was so thrilled that I had seen Norm the night before that she didn't even notice the false eyelashes I wore in her honour. A cute guy took our picture, commenting that he'd rather have been in it. Can you blame him? The two of us chatted, laughed, and just generally radiated Normfan love. It was sad to see her leave after barely an hour, but then, we'll meet again...
Oh, yes, we shall... ;-D
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Those sites show you what they call the "best available seats", because the "available" seat on their site is the crappy one they're showing you. Catch-22. Here's how to get a great ticket for a slow-selling show... (Works best for singles) On one website, two days previously, I had seen a lot (group) of four tix in the front row, but, being possessed of only one butt, the computer refused me a sale. The best single ticket "available" on Ticketmaster was an aisle in row "S". "S" is a letter placed somewhere in the last half of the alphabet; not good enough. So, I thought, "Hmmm. clearly, "Ticketmaster" is creating the online illusion that the show is selling briskly. ** If there are "A" seats available now on another site, there may be other groupings of good seats between "A" and "S" waiting to be sold. Experience, "Spidey-senses" and years of reading "Nancy Drew" and watching "Get Smart" helped me to the conclusion that if not all the lots sold, or if only three tix sold in a lot of four, I could easily wedge myself into that "better than 'S'" space. As it turned out, I waltzed up to the ticket window about 15 minutes before showtime and got a seat in row "H" on a left aisle (stage right) angled towards the stage. Proximity 9/10 View: 10/10.
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(Footnote within a footnote ;-D) They had done this for Norm's "Rio" show in Las Vegas years ago, the first half of which saw me sitting in a balcony when the floor had at least 50 empty seats, and good ones, at that. At intermission, I asked a downstairs page if I could move closer, saying I had travelled from Canada, etc. and he very kindly saw me to a better seat in time to watch Norm. Unbeknownst to me, Mike Weiss, a friend, Norm fan, and then-Webmaster of a Norm fansite, was also in the balcony. Had I recognized him, I would have asked him to come down and sit with me. I'm still sorry that didn't happen; the guy is a dear.***
I say, "generally", because something about women in the workplace seems to bring out the worst in Norm. His first sit-com, "Norm", drew protests from associations of social workers, who felt that their profession was being trivialized. That's a judgement call in a society where all predominantly-female professions are trivialized and underpaid. (Yes, all; think about it. The same cannot be said, for example, of garbage picking, a mostly-male non-profession which we endow with a euphemisitic title and large salaries.) But it is harder to overlook this trivialization of female professions when the same comic repeatedly makes negative comments about women and goes on to re-invent the truth about an important historical incident, relying on stereotypes to build his tale instead of fact.
In his act, Norm did a long bit about the alleged incompetence and stupidity of the flight attendants working the "American Airlines-Richard Reid-shoe bomber" flight 63. In Norm's version, the flight attendants repeatedly ignored passenger's warnings about Reid and finally, the heroic passengers had to wrestle the guy into submission while the flight attendants told them to get off him. In reality, the two women were more effective in saving lives than all the firemen who climbed the World Trade Center stairs to their deaths on Sept. 11th. **** No comic, not even the New York toughboys, would dare make jokes about firemen, pointing out their incompetence in the face of danger, making themselves feel less scared and helpless by ineffectually marching their buff bods up the stairs, when they could have used their brains, phoned up and asked the people in the towers if any of the stairwells appeared smoke-free and usable... (as stairwell "B" in the second tower was.) Pfff! Some experts! But comics don't joke about allegedly heroic men, even if their lack of heroism is based in truth.
The truth is, the still-alive (as a result of their effort) and traumatized flight attendants of Flight 63 never got the kind of public recognition that was showered on the dead (as a result of their effort) firemen. That flight was their Vietnam. But they're "waitresses" (to use Norm's word), and everyone knows sky-waitresses are... (pick one: stupid/bitchy/slutty/etc.) So, why did Norm make up this stuff about the flight attendants? It's a mystery to me. I just know that because of that bit, hundreds of future passengers who don't remember the facts and rely on a comic to refresh them walked out of that theatre disinformed, and just a little more righteously indignant at those "dumb bitches". You try working on a plane in that atmosphere...
So, it's flight attendants who draw Norm's undeserved hatred. And I don't even really care that it resembles some form of bigotry. I'm more shocked that it's so unoriginal as comedy.****
(another one, whee!) Reid had moved to a seat alone out of sight of the passengers. Most passengers, for weight and balance reasons, had their original seats towards the front or rear of the plane, so Reid, seeking privacy, moved to the middle. He was on a window near the wing, in a row by himself. It was flight attendant Hermis Moutardier who first tried to stop Reid. She noticed a smell of sulphur from a struck match as she passed in the aisle and observed Reid with his shoe with a protruding wire between his legs. The match in his hands was lit. She tried to grab him twice, but the large and powerful terrorist pushed Moutardier so hard that she was thrown against an armrest. She was hurt, but ran to the back galley to get help and water to soak the bomb. The next flight attendant to confront Reid, Christina Jones, was bitten "on the thumb" according to reports. However, what the papers didn't say is that she was bitten so hard on the base of the thumb that it was nearly severed from her hand. "He bit me -- the pain was so fierce, I knew I was seriously injured" she said. Only after Jones screamed for help were passengers aware of what was going on, and only then did they help. Descriptions of the events can be read here:
SpotlightCNN.comThe Scotsman Following is the most thorough article I could find. It was written about seven months after the event, and in it, the smell in the cabin is described as "smoke" which seems inconsistent with the originally published facts.
Time Magazine***** I had contacted Chris and Aaron of sociallyinept.com years ago, and thought it would be fun to meet them in Seattle. I happen to love their website, which is very funny. "Maybe I can give them advice on girls" I thought. Well, they missed their chance, because I never heard from them. So we never met. Which proves my theory: Chris and Aaron of sociallyinept.com are the luckiest bastards alive.